ITA Blog Post – Sept. 30

Answer ONE of the two following prompts in two or more complete sentences. Make sure to respond to every question in the prompt.

After you write your response, comment on at least two other posts in one or more complete sentences. You will be scored on your post and comments, so please be appropriate, mature, and professional in your blogging.

1. Krakauer points out that many “dreamers” and “kooks” are drawn to Everest in ch. 7 of the book. What climber’s story from BEFORE Krakauer’s attempt on Everest strikes you most? Why? Do you consider this person to be a dreamer or a kook? Why? Out of the characters in the story that are climbing Everest at the same time as Krakauer, who do you believe to be the biggest kook and why? Explain using multiple details and facts from the text.
2. Various motivations inspire climbers to attempt Everest, even under less than ideal conditions. While many characters see signs that indicate they should probably turn back, few do. For some, it is pride that moves them forward. Others seeks publicity. Some even climb as a symbol of equality they hope to see as part of their new government. Tell about a person or group from the 1996 climb that strikes you. What motivated this particular person or group to attempt reaching the summit of Everest? Do you agree with this person or group’s motivations? Why or why not? Explain using multiple facts and details from the text to justify your answer.

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  1. Before Krakauer climbed Everest a team that was meant to be the first South African Everest Expedition was funded and attempted to climb Everest. However the people that were supposed to climb Everest never did and only a kook, a friend, and his 63 year old grandfather or something climbed Everest. The guy its nuts and does illegal and shameful things to climb Everest, which he never ends of climbing. The biggest kook climbing Everest at the time of Krakauer’s expedition is Fisher and his Mountain Madness clients. Fisher is the craziest because of all bad stuff that happened to him like falling on his axe, falling 100 feet, and much more.

    1. I agree with what you said about fisher being crazy because there has been many facts from the text. for example him falling all over the place and trying to beat Krakauer’s team to the summit

    2. I do somewhat understand the man doing illegal things in order to try to climb Everest. If you want to climb the mountain badly enough and you have the opportunity, whether it’s a legal or illegal opportunity, why not take it? It will most likely be your only opportunity in your whole life to try the climb.

    1. Fisher is for sure the craziest person climbing Everest at the time because of all his wacky past experiences and his crazy climbing style.

  2. 1. The story about Krakauer when he was 9 and climbing the volcano probably strikes me the most because, he was nine and climbing a volcano. I myself would be scared out of my mind, at the age of nine. I would consider him as a dreamer, because she dreaming and striving for more. I’m not sure who i think is the biggest kook out of the characters in the story.

  3. 1.) The story that strikes me the most is the story of Earl Denman, a man who wants to climb Everest but he has very little climbing experience and he cant even get into Tibet. Somehow Denman convinces two Sherpa to accompany him up Everest. He ends up making it very far before a storm forces him to climb back down.
    Out of Krakauers’ group i think that Fisher is the biggest kook. It seems like no matter how much he gets hurt he continues his climb. His strive for the climb outweighs any logical decisions.

    1. I agree, but I fully understand his decision to keep on keepin’ on no matter what happens because climbing Everest is something that very few people will ever experience so why not push yourself to keep on keepin’ on?

    2. Although I do think it’s true that Fischer can be somewhat of a Kook, I think it takes quite a bit of perseverance to keep climbing. I do think he is a little bit of a dreamer, but I do agree that he should probably stop if he keeps getting hurt.

  4. krakauer is a person who strikes me because he continued to clime with broken ribs. I feel the reason fore this is because he came so far and it is hard to stop when you have cum so close.

    1. I don’t understand why people would climb Everest in the first place, but after spending so much money I can see why Krakauer wouldn’t want to quit and would like to finish the climb. Also I don’t think their broken, more like a weird expression, but I don’t know if Krakauer was just over exaggerating or something.

  5. One of the groups of climbers that wanted to climb Everest but were not qualified was the group from South Africa. They most likely went as a symbol of their country’s independence. They even went to Nelson Mendel before their trip and got his blessing. Though I understand their want to go, they should not have gone due to their lack of experience related to ice climbing. They had never even gone on an ice climb till they were on the mountain and did a few practice climbs.

  6. A person from the 1996 climb that strikes me was the Sherpa who got altitude sickness. He decided to try and keep climbing because if he did not he could have possibly not been hired to climb the mountain again. I agree with his decision because he is able to make his own decisions and know what is best for himself. I believe this because the Sherpa are better at climbing the mountain than everyone else. they have most likely climbed the mountain multiple times while everyone else besides the guides are beginners

  7. One prime example of a “kook” that has tried to conquer Everest, is the man who had planned on crashing an airplane on the side of the mountain to begin his trek. This person had no flying experience at all , and was willing to put his life in danger. I would consider this man more of a kook than a dreamer ,because he is taking little to no precautions at all .

  8. I think the person that seems the most crazy is Fischer. He calls his guiding business, “Mountain Madness.” If I were a client looking for a guiding business, I don’t think I’d choose his. He just seems like he’s very crazy and doesn’t take his life or the lives of others very seriously.

  9. Prompt 2:
    One group that really strikes me is the South Africa group. Actually, to be more precise, the group really annoys me. Especially the leader, Ian Woodall, who seems like a real piece of work. At first glance, Woodall seems like an admirable person. He tells stories of when he was a military commando in the South African conflict with Angola. He organized the South African expedition saying he wanted it to represent peace and equality in the new South African Government. He makes sure to include people of different races, both male and female in the expedition. As the expedition gets underway, however, his true colors begin to show through. He makes a huge fuss about everyone using a South African passport to show that they are all South African, then he uses a British passport. Later, it is revealed that he didn’t even put some of the expedition members on the climbing permit, making it so they can’t go past base camp. It was even discovered that his illustrious military history was a lie. Because of these deceits, three of his group left before they even started climbing. When confronted about these many shortcomings, Woodall got nasty, yelling and threatening. All in all, he was an incredibly irritating person.

    1. I agree with what you were saying about the South African team leader being a “kook’ because he seemed like all he cared about was himself.

  10. Scott Fischer, in my opinion, might be one of the craziest people to be climbing Everest. His method to climbing mountains is unique yet dangerous. not only to himself, but to anyone with him as well. In the book “Into Thin Air”, it mentioned numerous occasions involving Fischer falling from great heights during his climbs. One example is when he fell 50 feet off a mountain. Fisher walked away with only minor injuries. If i had fell that far, my climbing career would end on the spot.

    1. Haha yeah I can’t imagine how he survived all those falls. Even crazier than the falling though, I thought, was the part where he had a hole through his leg from falling, and he decided he didn’t want to spend the money on medical help, so he continued to climb for 6 months with an open wound!

    2. I also agree with you that it is pretty crazy to keep climbing after you had so many instances when you injured yourself.

  11. Tenzing Norgay really intrigued me because he was 19 when he was first hired for an expedition for a man named Eric Shipton in 1935. By 1947, he had already been on Everest 3 times. He felt as if the man who hired him in the expedition of 1947, was a little crazy with his plans but he couldn’t resist climbing Everest again. There was a crazy storm that took place at 22,000 feet. The storm had caused the men to admit defeat and go back down the mountain. I considered him to be a dreamer because even after the failed expedition, he kept getting hired and taking people up Everest. He never gave up doing what he loved.

  12. The man that attempted to fly a plain that he dose not now how to fly over the border into the side of Everest made me think about the sanity of some of the people climbing Everest. This man reminds me of Fisher, the man that took an ax to his leg and fell 100 ft. and was ok. Like the book said Everest dose attract interest people that may or may not have mental problems.

  13. 1) Earl Denman climbed Mount Everest with very little experience. He couldn’t even make it into Tibet. He then convinced two Sherpa’s to accompanying him up the mountain. He gets up pretty high, but to me he is the biggest kook in the book.

  14. Doug was a climber and he had climbed Everest the year before and had suffered frostbite on his toes and had to lose some skin tissue. What motivated him was that he wanted to reach the summit of Everest. I agree with his motivations because he wanted to something that not a lot of people get to do, and he wanted to brag that he went and climbed Everest and reached the summit. Even though he has suffered frost bite he still wanted to go on, but they would not let him.

  15. 1) Fisher stands out the most of all the climbers in my opinion because of all the crazy stories he has. His story about falling like 100 feet stands out. Fisher is kind of a kook, because he is a little crazy to do all of that stuff. The biggest kook on mount Everest is probably Fisher

    1. Fischer has strong determination to climb Everest and he doesnt want to give up. He is an experienced climber also unlike some f the others on the mountain at the time.

    2. I couldn’t agree anymore with you, young man. He only climbed that mountain for publicity, and look where it got him… he gone.

  16. I think the people who would be considered crazy or a cook would be the taiwanese group. They were completely unprepared and were doing everything wrong such as going two at a time on the ladders and climbing next to each other.
    I think that Rob Hall is the one that strikes me the most because he has climbed Everest multiple times and has nothing to prove anymore he just does it for monetary gain. However I do agree with this persons motives because he is just trying to make a living doing what he loves.

  17. The Sherpa who was severely sick and Krakauer struck me because of having someone coughing up blood and not wanting to turn back and Krakauer as well climbing with broken ribs is very dangerous. Having severe injuries and wanting to fight through it really got to me I myself would never climb somewhere so dangerous and as well being sick or being in pain as well.

  18. I believe the greatest “kook” to attempt Everest has to be Maurice Wilson. Wilson’s original plan to crash a plane into the side of Everest and then continue to the summit must have been the most novel of all the plans to reach the summit of Everest. One must admire his audacity in this en devour since he didn’t know how to fly a plane, and had little to no climbing experience.

  19. I am genuinely interested in Scott Fischer. His expeditions never cease to amaze him. He falls, but gets right back up, literally. He was the first American to summit Lhotse. Died in 1996 as a 40-year-old man with much experience under his belt. I enjoy reading about his character.

  20. 1. Tenzing Norgay’s story strikes me the most. He made it up Everest when he was only nineteen years old in hopes of being hired by a hike leaving for the peak in spring lead by Eric Shipton. I think Tenzing is a dreamer because he wanted to climb Everest for the challenge and to be hired to go on an expedition in the future. I think Klev Schoening could probably be one of the biggest kooks in the expedition. He is climbing with his uncle Pete Schoening despite the fact that he is an inexperienced climber. Pete Schoening is known as a “Himalayan legend” who managed to save five climbers single-handed. Klev is probably willing to risk his own life for the fame hoping he can be as famous as his uncle.

  21. Krakauer points out that many “dreamers” and “kooks” are drawn to Everest in ch. 7 of the book. What climber’s story from BEFORE Krakauer’s attempt on Everest strikes you most? Why? Do you consider this person to be a dreamer or a kook? Why? Out of the characters in the story that are climbing Everest at the same time as Krakauer, who do you believe to be the biggest kook and why? Explain using multiple details and facts from the text.

    the story that struck me was fishers which is one of the guides he has fallen off of 100 feet cliffs and still has finished the climb has had an ax go threw his leg and still finished the climb. I consider him to be a kook because he has already guided many people up Everest, while hes injured he still guides them for the remainder of the hike.

  22. 1. Tenzing who climbed before Krakauer, was the same man who would later make the first ascent of Everest with Hillary had immigrated to Darjeeling from Nepal in 1933 as a nineteen year old, hoping to be hired by an expedition departing for the peak that spring under the leadership of an eminent British mountaineer named Eric Shipton. His story is really moving that from a age of a teen he knew he wanted to conquest Everest, I think that a lot of teens at his age have no idea of the life goals they set to accomplish. On the other-hand Frank Fischbeck who is climbing at the same time as Krakauer had attempted to climb Everest three times, and Frank is trying for his fourth time. Personally I think that’s a little insane, Everest is the most dangerous mountain ever and the fact of the matter is your risking your life, and paying large sums of money to climb something that can either happen or you can die trying.

    1. I do think it’s a little crazy how Fischbeck has had three unsuccessful attempts and is trying again. Perhaps maybe he should gain a little more experience before trying again.

  23. 2. Various motivations inspire climbers to attempt Everest, even under less than ideal conditions. While many characters see signs that indicate they should probably turn back, few do. For some, it is pride that moves them forward. Others seeks publicity. Some even climb as a symbol of equality they hope to see as part of their new government. Tell about a person or group from the 1996 climb that strikes you. What motivated this particular person or group to attempt reaching the summit of Everest? Do you agree with this person or group’s motivations? Why or why not? Explain using multiple facts and details from the text to justify your answer.

    I do not agree with the climbers Lowe and Anker. I thought that when they interrupted there own climb to go help the Taiwanese climbers was insane and incredibly dangerous. Anker and Lowe wanted to reach the summit because they are one both two of the best climbers in the united states, but it doesn’t mean they should risk their lives just to have some excitement for reaching it if they even do. It says that the Taiwanese group was at 14,400 feet and that Anker and Lowe were at 17,200 feet on the mountain. Also that Anker and Lowe chose to turn around and go back down the mountain which is highly dangerous just to same the group, which they saved 4 of the 5 Taiwanese people. 2 with frost bite and the other two were okay but one had died before they got there. so if they wouldn’t of got there when they did more would of died.

  24. Scott Fischer would be a person who seeks publicity. On page 68, chapter 5, it quotes “Recognition was important to Scott.” Therefore he strived to be notice. He has been through alot to get him known but the only thing he cared about was being known to the climbing community. Around 1996, Fischer started recieving the recognition he wanted.

    1. recognition is important to every climber though so they can get sponsors for their next climbs. Scott wasn’t crazy he was just a good salesman.
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  25. 1. Tenzing who climbed before Krakauer, was the same man who would later make the first ascent of Everest with Hillary had immigrated to Darjeeling from Nepal in 1933 as a nineteen year old, hoping to be hired by an expedition departing for the peak that spring under the leadership of an eminent British mountaineer named Eric Shipton. His story is really moving that from a age of a teen he knew he wanted to conquest Everest, I think that a lot of teens at his age have no idea of the life goals they set to accomplish. On the other-hand Frank Fischbeck who is climbing at the same time as Krakauer had attempted to climb Everest three times, and Frank is trying for his fourth time. Personally I think that’s a little insane, Everest is the most dangerous mountain ever and the fact of the matter is your risking your life, and paying large sums of money to climb something that can either happen or you can die trying.

    1. I agree that the decision to spend large amounts of money to risk your life is ridiculous but obviously it hasn’t stopped people from trying to summit.

  26. Earl denham strikes me as the most encouraging because he chose to climb the mountain even with little experience. He didnt even have official permission to climb, but despite the lack of experience and no permission he eventually talked the sherpas into letting him.

  27. I chose Krakauer because I believe he had a few reasons for climbing Everest. 1. He was a journalist writing a article on the journey, 2. He was getting paid for writing the article, and 3. He also got to experience the journey cost free.

  28. Krakauer climbing the volcano when he was nine definitely hits and interest me the most because climbing a volcano at the age of nine is crazy. Theirs not a lot of nine year old out there that would actually climb a volcano at that age. even then when he was climbing with his broken ribs is really incredible. he obviously has huge dreams that he is determined to for fill. I think the biggest kook is Fisher though..no matter how much fisher gets hurt he continues to keep climbing. Krakauer and fisher are a lot a like but Fisher wins the kook award.

  29. In my opinion, the climber that strikes me as the most inspiring and more fascinating is Earl Denman. I feel that his determination comes from his ambition, as well as visa verse. I agree with Earls reasoning and his motivational standards because those are the same aspects that drive me in my school career. For example; he Earl states that he was a dreamer, hoping one day to climb Everest. I too was a dreamer in the terms of receiving good grades from my classes. Earl also mentions he was unsure about how he was to accomplish his dream, but did so with full confidence. I, again, relate to this in the figure of not knowing how I would even start to achieve good grades, but I did so with confidence, as he did.

  30. The story that strikes me the most is about that one guy who attempt’s to climb Everest but had little experience climbing. Out of the Krakauer’s the biggest kook has to be Fisher, he always seems to get hurt when he climbs.

  31. I agree with everyone who says Scott Fischer is a point of interest. All the stories and adventures he speaks of, falling over 100 feet and getting right back up. He definitely was an extraordinary man.

  32. I think that Fisher stands out the most to me. The reason being is, he has so many interesting story’s. My favorite would defiantly be the 100 ft fall because he still finished the climb after he fell. I think he is a tough guy to do this, especially after having an axe go through his leg too. I think that he is a kook because he goes up and guides people regardless of his health.

    1. This guy is crazy. How after a 100 ft fall do you get back up with minor injuries? That’s not even crazy, that’s insane.

  33. 1. I believe that Earl Denman is a kook because he blindly attempted to climb Everest without any climbing experience. “…Despite the fact he had little mountaineering experience…” He just did it for the publicity. The group that is the biggest kook climbing during 1996 would have to be the Taiwanese group. They failed to summit Mount McKinley and yet go towards Everest.

  34. Maurice Wilson story about climbing Everest strikes me the most. Wilson had a theory that climbing Everest would publicize his beliefs that the myriad ills of humankind could be cured through a combination of fasting and faith in the powers of God. (Pg.93) Wilson I think would be considered a dreamer in my perspective because he had a goal/dream and he was set out to reach it. Pete Schoening, I believe was the biggest kook because he was almost sixty-nine and was climbing Everest. He is a pretty old man and still took the risk. (Pg.95)

  35. 1)Maurice Wilson had a reckless experience thirteen years before Denman he tried helping out his fellow men. Maurice said that he only wanted to attempt Everest because it would be the perfect way to publicize that he could be cured by the power of God. He planned to fly a small airplane to Tibet to avoid the personal climbing and crash land it on the flanks of Everest and proceed from there. I think Maurice would be the biggest kook because how he wants to take publicity of something he didn’t try to climb.

  36. Earl Denham’s story strikes me the most because of his lack of experience. Not only the fact that he has little experience, yet also because he wasn’t able to get into Tibet. He had no permission to climb and basically wrangled to Sherpa’s into taking him up the mountain. If this guy isn’t crazy or even a kook I don’t know who is.

  37. 1. Maurice Wilson i think is the kookiest person who attempted to climb Everest. For him to fly a plane and crash land it on the foothills of Everest without a permit to climb was quite crazy. Even when his original plan did not work he would then disguise himself as a Buddhist monk and trek 300 miles to reach Everest. There is no doubt in my mind that he was crazy. Although no one on Krakauer expedition is this crazy, I believe that Scott Fischer was kooky. For him to continue climbing even after he fell 80 ft and getting stabbed by an ice-axe in the leg was crazy.
    2. The South African group was motivated by pride to be the first South African group to receive a permit to climb Everest. i feel that this is a good reason to climb Everest, but I did not like the group’s unprofessional actions such as leaving one of the women out of the permit.

  38. Out of the characters in the story that are climbing Everest at the same time as Krakauer, the biggest kook has to be Fischer. He is always trying to do crazy things, then gets hurt. The climber with the most interesting story before Krakauer is Wilson. Shipton returned to Everest and found his body laying there frozen. ” But the question of who belongs on Everest and who doesn’t is more complicated than it might first appear.”said Krakaure. That is a good question.

  39. The climber that strikes me the most would have to be Fisher because, he has many interesting stories. And my favorite part was probably when he fell the 100 ft and still managed to get back up and climb even though that probably hurt a lot. So him to do that i think of him as a courageous man for doing all of that and still willing to climb Everest with his injuries.

  40. 1. The story of Scott Fisher is the story that strikes me most. His story strikes me most because it amazed me how much he had went through. To think that a mans leg could be impaled by an ice pick, and then fall over 100 feet and live to tell the story is just incredible. I think that he wold be a kook because there is no way he is still sane after everything that he has been through. I think that Fisher would have to be the biggest kook out of everyone because as I said before, he has been through a lot.

  41. 1.
    I think the story about Maurice Wilson struck me the most because of his crazy schemes to get up the mountain. Some of his plans were genius while other were just plain strange, but he tried even though he had limited climbing experience. Maurice Wilson is probably the top kook for me.

  42. Various motivations inspire climbers to attempt Everest, even under less than ideal conditions. While many characters see signs that indicate they should probably turn back, few do. For some, it is pride that moves them forward. Others seeks publicity. Some even climb as a symbol of equality they hope to see as part of their new government. Tell about a person or group from the 1996 climb that strikes you. What motivated this particular person or group to attempt reaching the summit of Everest? Do you agree with this person or group’s motivations? Why or why not? Explain using multiple facts and details from the text to justify your answer.

    Yasuko Namba
    She was the oldest woman to climb Mount Everest. She was also a Japanese climber who climbed many other mountains.

  43. Yasuko Namba
    her motive to climb the mountain was to be the oldest lady to climb Everest. i dont agree with her motive because she too old and just has money to spend.

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